The Samovar

German Postal agencies using Russian POs in the Levant

Bill Stoten - 5/30/2007 at 17:12

This is a strange one...
A nice 20 para postal stationery card used from Constantinople to Munich has the cachet Filiberti Stoppani & Co. Constantinople Poste Allemande 144 but postmarked from the Russian P.O. in 1906... anyone know the function of this registered (i.e. numbered) office or agent and why did they use the Russian post?

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Lacplesis - 5/31/2007 at 02:38

Maybe this more a question for a german postal history forum?

Alep - 5/31/2007 at 12:44

Probably, the text "poste allemagne 144" points merely to the postal address of this company (postal box?), i.e. the company preferred to receive mail through the German post office. However, nothing prevented it from sending its mail through the Russian or some other post office.

Bill Stoten - 6/1/2007 at 10:57

Yes, that's quite possible. The other example I have is a 10 kop. lettercard used from Constantinople 1901 and has a cachet 'Antoine N. Angelides/Deutsche Post/Konstantinopel'. Searching on the internet I found out from the www.filatelia.fi/experts/ site that Angelides was a stamp dealer in Contantinopel/Istanbul up to WW2. Perhaps they're just Dealers addresses. The cards are sent through the Russian system though, so either he preferred using it to send 'to Germany' or they were philatelic examples for postal stationery collectors (say.. of russian material) in Germany.

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Gary - 6/2/2007 at 16:34

Quote:
Originally posted by Lacplesis
Maybe this more a question for a german postal history forum?


Is there a German Russian collector's forum? If so, what is the URL?

Thanks

Lacplesis - 6/2/2007 at 16:44

You might be more interested to ask specialists on German Levante Offices on that one ???

Gary - 6/2/2007 at 16:50

My question was "Is there a German Russian collector's forum? If so, what is the URL?" If there is one for the Levant only, OK. I am looking for German collectors' of Russian material Internet blogs / chat rooms.

Lacplesis - 6/2/2007 at 17:02

Not on russian philately so far, only two bigger allround philatelic boards.

Russland ArGe has announced a complete workover for their website for the next weeks (we will see...).
I will try to talk the webmaster into installing a message board (we will see...).

Bill Stoten - 6/2/2007 at 17:29

Gary,
try www.germanphilately.org its the Germany & Colonies Philatelic Society. I've posted this question there to in the visitors q&a forum.

Lacplesis - 6/2/2007 at 17:33

Bill,

if you give me permission, I can forward your picture and ask for the meaning of the 144 in a german forum.

Bill Stoten - 6/2/2007 at 18:39

Okay, that's no problem... I'd be glad to get a definitive reply ... Go right ahead... and good luck!;)

Gary - 6/26/2007 at 17:29

Quote:
Originally posted by Lacplesis
Not on russian philately so far, only two bigger allround philatelic boards.

Russland ArGe has announced a complete workover for their website for the next weeks (we will see...).
I will try to talk the webmaster into installing a message board (we will see...).


Did this happen? If so , what is the URL?

Thanks

Lacplesis - 6/26/2007 at 18:01

http://www.bdph.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4327

sorry, I forgot about it...

Became father in the meantime :P (first one, a boy...)

The context is: Since the German offices in the Levante had no mail delivery service it is most probably a P.O.Box number.

Lacplesis - 6/26/2007 at 18:04

Well, yes the website was worked over, but not improved.
And no, so far no sign of any interrest to install a message board.

http://www.arge-russland.de/1245703.htm

ameis33 - 6/27/2007 at 15:41

My greetings for your baby...
That's what i mean when i say: lack of new philatelist...
Me too i'm giving my contribution, but the first issue will be released in December...

Bill Stoten - 6/29/2007 at 17:03

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!:hop

Lacplesis - 6/29/2007 at 17:17

Thanks ::P