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[*] posted on 11/25/2005 at 13:16
Provisional perforation or a damaged stamp?


I bought it as a "provisional perforation" but Michael thinks it is just a damaged stamp :( Any other thoughts out there? Examples?

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[*] posted on 11/25/2005 at 16:08


My vote is for damaged, but I have no examples to show.
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[*] posted on 10/18/2006 at 00:50


Not one, not one private perforation is know on any provisional postal
history item.
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[*] posted on 10/18/2006 at 12:51


No, you are not right in this assertion. Here are some examples:

1) Kwellenstein, Livland province

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[*] posted on 10/18/2006 at 12:52


2) Kavkazskaya-Vokzal

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[*] posted on 10/18/2006 at 12:54


3) TPO 280 Vologda-Petrograd, posted at Tikhvin.

I can show more and I have seen more.

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[*] posted on 10/18/2006 at 23:22


Very interesting indeed! Could you send me more scans? Maybe we'll include them in the catalog... What do you think?
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[*] posted on 10/21/2006 at 08:58


Do you have any examples with inflationary rate increase or value revaluated.
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[*] posted on 10/21/2006 at 18:03


The scans featured are great examples of private perforations, unfortunately none are provisional usage.
Although private perforation is an interesting topic, they cannot be
considered provisional as they do not meet the requirements or definition of provisional usage. So I re-assert that none are known on cover and can not be considered provisional.
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[*] posted on 10/22/2006 at 07:49


It seems to me that there is a confusion with the term 'provisional'. In English, this is euivalent to 'temporary', while achlenov and you proceed from the term 'provisorii' adopted in the Russian philatelic literature for local revaluation surcharges/overprints on stamps. Thus, there exist local perforations on current imperforate stamps rather than 'provisional' perforations (such term has no sence at all). The perforations on scans are just local but not necessarily private perforations, since they were manufactured most probably by postal officials of particular post offices. As to the local perforations of locally revalued stamps, they are, at least, unknown even as loose copies.
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[*] posted on 11/8/2006 at 08:56


Moscow 1917. An example from the Raritan Auction #29. Click on lot 524:

http://www.raritanstamps.com/Cat/NewCatFrame.htm
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[*] posted on 11/8/2006 at 12:49


Wasn't the 2-kop rate for printed matter abroad was the standard rate for items up to 4 lots until 1 September 1917. Maybe not?
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[*] posted on 11/8/2006 at 13:05


Just so, but per every 50 grams.
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[*] posted on 11/8/2006 at 13:24


Sounds good.

1 Lot = 3 zolotnik = 12.797 g

4 lot = 51.2 grams approximately.

So 2-kop franking is not unusual for printed matter. Thanks.
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