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[*] posted on 1/16/2006 at 16:47
Registered letter into a zemstvo


Hi,
need your help regarding the attached registered letter. It was obviously mailed in Morchansk (Tambov Gub.) on February 7, 1887 and was mailed to Shatsk (at that time also in the Tambov, nowadays in the Ryzan Gubernia) - only 70 km away. On the reverse an arrival postmark is seen. What is special with tis cover is the zemstvo stamp of the Shatsk zemstvo attached. It shows a Rjab postmark.
My questions are the follwing : The empirial tariff is clear, 7 + 7 Kop. for postage and registration. However, why only 3 Kop. in the zemstvo? Was it no more registered within the rural district? Can anybody decipher the address? Thanks in advance for your help.
Ciao, Thomas Berger

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[*] posted on 1/16/2006 at 22:44


A quick comment on the postmark: "Ryab." is short for Ryabitskii or Ryabinskii - he was the postmaster in the Shatsk zemstvo post office.

As for the 3k, from the viewpoint of the Shatsk zemstvo the only fee to be charged was a simple delivery fee within Shatsk - registration had already been paid at the Imperial post office in Morshansk.




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[*] posted on 1/17/2006 at 13:59


Thanks for the reply.
Does Ryabitskii mean now simply "postmaster" or was it the name of a particular postmaster?
Can your read the address on the cover.
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[*] posted on 3/3/2006 at 18:08


Are there other examples of hand stamps used to indicate the name of the postmaster?
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[*] posted on 3/4/2006 at 12:40


Zemstvos are not exactly my field of expertise, but in Oleg Faberge's book you can find more examples, from the following districts:
Cherdyn (p.78)
Shatsk (again! p.305, 306, two more names)




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[*] posted on 3/4/2006 at 16:54


I spoke with George Werbizky, an acknowledged expert on zemstvo. George tells me that the postmaster hand-stamp is fairly common. In addition to the one illustrated in this thread, the referenced entries are (if spelled incorrectly it is because I wrote it down wrong) pg. 78 = Lukich, pg. 305 = Dad'yanen, and pg. 306 = Selieerstov.

George will send photocopies of the referenced items and others from his personal collection, which I will gladly share in this thread.
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[*] posted on 3/5/2006 at 17:12


You're welcome.



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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 16:00


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In addition to the one illustrated in this thread, the referenced entries are (if spelled incorrectly it is because I wrote it down wrong) pg. 78 = Lukich, pg. 305 = Dad'yanen, and pg. 306 = Selieerstov.


Let's try that again. They are: pg. 78 = Mikhail Lukich Tetyuev, pg. 305 = Vasili Arkadyevich Tatianin, and pg. 306 = Dmitri Nikolaevich Seliverstov.

Below is the example from page 78.

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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 16:01


page 305

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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 16:02


page 306

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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 16:03


Another example from Shatsk - GGW collection

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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 16:04


And one final entry for Shatsk - GGW collection

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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 16:06


The last example shown contains two lose stamp with similar markings.

On the left, Tatianin. On the right, Sergeev (Cherdyn). Both examples from the GGW collection.

George Werbizky can be reached at the address listed for him in the Rossica Journal.

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[*] posted on 3/10/2006 at 18:33


PS from George.

Always glad to share information. The Faberge book is indeed excellent. However, considering the price today, $300-400, it is not an item available in every collector's library, at least in original form. Zemstvo collectors would be the primary audience for this work. If someone sends you to the "library" to look for this book, you will probably not find it. If I can help with an illustration or two, please let me know.
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