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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 17:21
Triangular post station postmark


In Verona i've found also this sympatic letter...
The postmarks are very light and hardly readable, but maybe was just for this reason the seller insisted to tell me "From St. Petersbourg...".
The destination is Plock, a small town not far from Warszawa, site of the Petrolchemia Plock, the oil refinery.
But, where does it come from? (i've already heard this question)
The numeral cancel is quite lite. In the second picture i've made a high res scan and an enhancement of the image, and i read a "997" (?). This number should in effect belong to a block assigned to the polish train station offices, but in the books i have it is not listed.
The numeral cancel is accompanied by a two straight lines postmark. This is similar to the one described in the robinson's book "Russian postmarks" fig. 84 page 15. Half of the postmark is vanished, in the second half i can read something like "...варшгуб". I think the missing part should be the name of the post office, and the second part the region (varshavskaya gubernia)... pity, the most important part is missing...
But i was right, not from St. Petersbourg... Don't try to make a polish seller change idea...

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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 17:27
The number of the numeral


In my opinion, it is 997.

A question. Train station post offices where located just in train stops or perhaps the mail could have been collected while the train was running, with some sort of hook?

Final information, the letter has been sent in 1876...

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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 17:29


Please post a blown up image of the triangular cancel and the two-line cancel and also show the back side of the card. I may be able to identify this mark.
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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 17:32


These triangular marks were used at postal stations on roads, not at train stations, although some were near train stations.
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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 17:54
Linear postmark


Let me understand.
Standing to Robinson, "Triangular cancellations with number from 1 to 622 for post stations (i add, on roads). From october 1858 numbers from 623 to 1700 were added to include railway stations and ROPIT post offices"
(by the way, what is a ROPIT post office?)

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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 18:06
And the back side...


It is written in polish
It begin with "Wielmozny pani ... w Plock (Dear madam ... in Plock)". It seems a kind of order, i still haven't spent time to translate it.

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[*] posted on 11/26/2006 at 18:27


The straight line cancel reads Gombin Varsh gub. You can also read Gombin at the bottom of the message side. 997=Gombin. ROPiT offices were Russian post offices in the Turkish Empire. These used triangular numbered cancels from 1862.
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lecture.gif posted on 11/27/2006 at 17:33
R.O.P. i T.


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Originally posted by howard
ROPiT offices were Russian post offices in the Turkish Empire.


Close, but not totally accurate. Please use the UoF pages to better understand what R.O.P. i T. was. The pages are in Prigara, 135-136. Below is the link. Go to page 135 at bottom, then next page.

http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/UFDC/UFDC.aspx?c=ros1&s=rosm&am...
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