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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:58
Proofs or not proofs


There is on sale on Ebay a big collection/accumulation of “deceased specialist and
examiner philatelist” Mr. Koopman.

I'll not open a discussion here why some bidders are paying such crazy prices but will touch another problem.

Along with nice and rare stamps I saw several questionable items.

I already wrote about matchbox labels offered as proofs.
http://www.rossica.org/forum/viewthread.php?tid=457
:D

Today is a different topic.

Thee are several items I would like to put several words about.
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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:58


1st.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3495&...

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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 08:59


2nd

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3495&...

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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 09:00


3rd.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3495&...

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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 09:18


1. Looking on the voiding perforation I found out that 5th hole from the top (or other side) is bigger in diameter.
As far as I know that type of perforation machinery was never used to make voiding perforation on Soviet stamps.

2. Looking on the first "proof" tank stamp I saw rough perforation, which was ONLY on the latest
(2nd issue) of those stamps.
Can it be on the proof?

3. Colors...
Tanks “proofs” have green & brown colors.
Original stamp was issued in brown.
From the information I have those 2 colors can be chemically received from brown.

Nekrasov "proofs" have orange and brown colors. The one in the middle - sepia - is original (issued) color.
The same story here - both colors can be chemically received from sepia.

4. Design details.
Some of the "proof" lost small details of the design

5. There is no information about such proofs (Ok, shut me here - it can be in some old collection for a years,
nobody saw those before, etc, etc...)

All the above bringing me to the conclusion that those "proofs" were made up for Mr. Koopman.

I’m considering those "proofs" are fakes.

Any other ideas?


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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 09:23


Now if some of the "proofs" are at least questionable can we believe in other "proofs" from this estate
such as "SPARTAKIADE" (shown above) or another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3495&...

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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 16:28


:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
1st lot sold at $605.00
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2nd lot sold at $722.00 :o:o:o:o
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3rd lot sold at $250.00
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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 17:20


And the gentleman from Ukraine with the Deli business wins! Also interesting who thge bidders were.:D:o
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[*] posted on 1/27/2004 at 23:17
Just some info - no opinion


Specialized Catalogue of Postage Stamps. Vol. 5, Part 2. USSR. 1923 – 1940 issued by STANDARD-COLLECTION (known also as ZAGORSKY catalog) in 1999 gives information about proofs and essays of SPARTAKIADA set. No information about proofs with annuling perforation of that type is given. Same about 28-kop stamp from 10th Anniversary of October Revolution. Though it mentiones two other stamps from that set with annuling perforation (but doesn't show them).
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